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Message: Aitakahash...THANKS for the GOLD follow-up.

Aitakahash...THANKS for the GOLD follow-up.

posted on Jan 31, 2009 04:32PM


Thanks for your Gold response. As shown below, not everyone shares the benefits of Gold.

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Here is a response received from our portfolio strategist on going 100% to gold.

Ivar Grimba, CFP, R.F.P.

Branch Manager, Senior Financial Advisor

Assante Capital Management

From: Shane Kirby [mailto:SKirby@UnitedFinancial.ca]

Subject: Gold - Not as




Hi Ivar,

Most publications deal with diversification generally and likely wouldn't comment on anyone contemplating 100% positions. I would suggest some of the broader current arguments against gold.

1) There is no income stream or claim on an income stream.

2) Unlike other metals or even other precious metals (silver & platinum) it has very limited industrial uses - primarily jewelry.

3) The market is unlikely ever to be efficient in that the world's central banks control some 25% of the total volume of gold above the ground this is 10 years of world demand just ready to be blown out if governments thought it was time to "sell" into an aggressive market..... see the attached article - this tends to attract the conspiracy theorists http://www.investopedia.com/articles...

4) Performance in its traditional inflation hedge role has been abysmal (gold worth $800 in 1980/81 should be worth more than $2,000 today just based on CPI)

5) Performance in its traditional financial crisis hedge role has been abysmal..... gold traded to $1030 in March 2008 then the crisis really took hold and where did it go .... Even with the huge rally we have just seen its down more than 10% Hope that helps Rich


Shane


Shane J. Kirby

Private Client Manager

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Abe, lI sent your mail to my daughter who in turn sent it to their adviser. See below but from the bottom up if necessary to have it fall into place.
From: Debbie So........
To: rmso.........
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:01 PM
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Funny that you should ask your question yesterday. Here is another email I just got and half hour ago on the very subject.

I think it confirms everything we were talking about and makes a pretty good statement for owning gold equities over the commodity it self.

Ivar Grimba, CFP, R.F.P.

Branch Manager, Senior Financial Advisor

Assante Capital Management



From: Brooks, Michael [mailto:mbrooks@mackenziefinancial.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:02 AM
To: Brooks, Michael
Cc: Hopkins, Craig
Subject: Fred Sturm - Precious Metals Comments



Good Morning,



Like many things in this environment, there has been some pretty extreme measures ... One to add to the mix is the ratio of gold bullion to the price of gold equities (using the price level of the Philadelphia Stock Exchange Gold & Silver Index or XAU for gold equities because it has the longest history)



The long-term average ratio since 1983 has been 4.2x. The Dec 31 reading of 7x is a historic level and was even higher in late October when it hit 10.0x (see attached chart showing historical ratio of gold/gold equities). The higher the ratio, the lower the price of gold equities is in relation to the price of gold bullion.



The ratio spiked in October as global deleveraging forced investors to sell liquid positions, including gold equities, to fund shortfalls elsewhere. In addition, gold and/or gold equities are included in many commodity/resource baskets which were popular investment vehicles during the commodity boom. Gold has been sold as investors exit these broad commodity/resource positions. The result has been a disproportional drop in gold equities vs gold bullion from January 1 to Oct 22: gold bullion declined 8% (in USD) and gold equities declined 59% (represented by the XAU index). Keep in mind that the XAU index is +80% exposed to senior gold producers (+50% in Barrick, Newmont and Goldcorp) and that many junior and gold explorers were down significantly more during this period. Precious metals funds were down more than the gold index, anywhere from -60% to -70% over the same period as all have some degree of diversification among senior, intermediate, junior and explorers (see slide highlighting allocation comparison of precious metal funds by type of company)



Since Oct 22, there has been a reversal of fortune for gold equities and precious metal mutual funds vs gold bullion. The XAU index advanced 73% to Dec 31 while gold bullion advanced 15%. In comparison, precious metal funds returned anywhere from +36% to +83% (UPMF returned +51% and UWPMF returned +53%) see attached graphs showing 2008 performance of gold, gold equities and the trade weighted USD. The strong performance of gold equities has reduced the gold / gold equity ratio from the peak reading on Oct 22 of 10x to the Dec 31 reading of 7x. Historically, when the ratio exceeded the long-term average by a significant amount (ie, +1 standard deviation), gold equities significantly outperformed gold as well as broad equities the subsequent year. While we have already seen a significant move in gold equities, if you believe in reversion to the mean from the current level, then gold equities would need to continue to significantly outperform gold bullion with the possibly of the greatest returns in the smaller junior or explorers who as a group have not gained as much as their senior counterparts.



Fred and Benoit and team are optimistic for the prospects for gold and gold equities for the following reasons:



(1) depreciating purchasing power of paper assets as money supply increases

(2) geopolitical concerns and market uncertainty

(3) low real interest rates support diversification of reserves/savings

(4) declining mine production

(5) expectation of declining or stabilizing gold mining costs

(6) declining currencies in producing countries - ie S. Africa and Canada - make for lower cost base vs USD revenue

(7) M+A opportunities. You can't build a mine for what some of these companies are trading at



Please let me know if you have any questions.



Kindest regards,



Michael Brooks, MBA
Regional Sales Representative
Mackenzie Investments

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