I wish I was cautiously optimistic going back about about 6 years ago. Listening to Sprott , Embry & a few other gold guys saying gold & silver were going to hit the roof. The gold verses paper thing all made sense to me. I still listen to them guys but I take what they say with a grain of salt. Now on BNN I heard Ross Heally being very up on gold mines. Him not being a gold bug & a very smart investor said that it is posible for more down size in the miners but the down size would not be much compared to the upside he could see in this market. He figured that gold stocks could go up 6 to 8 times their value.