Hey Pic you and Spiny are good thinkers and writers and I agree with both of you today so that makes me like you two! First of all the jobs report has become a report that is pretty phony especially today's where it surprisingly was strong even with the government shutdown and folks dropping out of the work force because they're discouraged! And Spiny's analysis seems correct that our new "partners" would not be willing to let legal fees continue to build and eventually surpass what is owed! Hopefully today we'll get that reversal that you suggested which will show us that the final bottom is in! Have a great weekend men! Khaki