While bouts and carmine are jumping up and down, its important to remember that bouts average is .20 after his averaging down and carmine invested over $100,000 way above .10, so they are still deep in the hole. Sadly both of them expect too much and will most likely hold until its at a new all time low. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. No Quilliam run has ever sustained... I hope you do well with your other investments pic. I sincerely mean that.