thanks Pic, appreciate the time you take to give another slant on the matter.

what you say makes sense, it may well be next year now before we find out what is really going on.

as far as communicating I have done that and as you experience get no reply, I do wish everyone here good fortune and a great return on their investment, perhaps its time to back away from this a bit and enjoy christmas, no need to get stressed out over something beyond our control.