Yeah Brian you have some point .So that's why I think the 5.25 is a very important level.Isn't that the level where the debentures comes in play?

I think if we can leave that point most shorting will be over .Am I correct to say that the advantage is over for these holders and they better focus on the common?

What supprised me to read in market biggys posting was this

The street knows this, I'm sure the pros are dialed in on the inside and talk to people at CLL everyday. They probably know everyday how much oil is coming out of the ground.

It's maybe difficult to prevent workers talking about information from inside.For a company which only pumps up bitumen it's easy to calculate the cash they made .

We will have to be patient for quite a few years to leave this trading behavior .Let's hope Algar goes as well as pod 1 otherwise we are in for some bumpy rides in the near future.