Brian

as you say mannipulation has been around forever,I beleive what I pointed out did happen today why make light of it ,5 million shares traded hands on the negative side before 2 million traded on the plus side,and if you beleive in the MMs then you should understand how bashing works,or was it just coinsidence that investors expressed all manner of negativness in the face of a rising bbl price,the MMs are having a field day accumulating and making money,the opportunity is there for investors to make some money while Connacher builds to 50000/bbl production,it took me awhile to accumulate my position 35k@.81 I continue to trade another position and so far patience has kept me in good sted a 20% is good but I still see a 10xer in the longterm