Big volume today and up almost 5%. Any ideas as to what the top of this run will be? Do you think Eric Nutall and his buddy Andrew Potter we're right in saying that cll will go to 1.75. I'm thoughly confused about these bitumin prices and how they will effect cll, don't they have hedge's in places for this? and doesn't their refinery in montana proceses thier bitumin, i thought that's why they got it, as a hedge.