Foxy is correct, there may be a breach here with infidels from the sh board. cranecrane seems suspicious and there is no doubt the chips guy is a soft basher. In my humble opinion they need the boot! I don't care what ya think of me but read between the lines. They will only get worse. might be best to see how they respond first, wouldn't want to become a commie state here would we? And for the sake of Del...and he knows who I mean, get back to what you guys do best, real info.