Chappy your amazing. For a self proclaimed amateur I think you missed your calling. Elmer did state in the conference call that Teck is working very closely with them so I doubt Teck will wait for the release and be put on the clock when they know what's coming down the pipe. It sounds like the news is almost baked and just need the bell to go off. On another note Agoracom is getting almost impossible to access on the first try. Server errors keep popping up. They sent a auto reply stating there aware of the issue? LS