Yes, they will go empty handed to the Toronto show. Nothing new there. Yes, it's questionable and they should take something. At least most of us would wish that. It may be true they do this on purpose and should have their feet held to the fire. I can't remember a time when they took fresh meat to the market. I doubt that will ever change, not even when Arizona starts. Have a chat with any other CEO in mining about it and see what they think. From my convesations I get the impression others would fall over themselves to have juicy timely stuff and the money to go.

There's a lot of other companies who have good product and lack the billionare support. I've never really got a saticfactory answer as to why we do this and that just leaves the door open for negative speculation.

And then there's the very obvious manipulations. The company can't defend itself without EE and David taking up even more shares to the point where it's so lopsided that no one wants a taste for fear the company will go private. I had no doubts about the drop today and the empty hands for Toronto. I am waiting for the next wave of attack. I do think this is the last go around for the manipulators. And then, oh what fun awaits.