I have nothing but respect for both you and Chappy. I don't question what you say, but question Jason's knowledge of the situation. There have been several other posters who have called Elmer who stated quite clearly that the clock starts when the feasibility study is delivered to teck. This was also stated in the recent webcast. I think Elmer knows what's going on better than Jason. No disrespect to Jason, but I don't get the impression that he knows the finer details of things a lot of the time.