I agree with you on this Cbew, Teck could easily announce the backin, followed by a joint venture agreement, I don't think that would affect anything other than raising our Sp. so I'm inclined to say buyout of some sorts are underway. Until an announcement we will not know anything. The problem is the open ended timeline, many,many have said Teck acts quick well I must say from where I stand doesn't look that way to me.