Well Simc1, we can look at it that way now, but with all the assets and metal prices where they stand do you believe we would get fair value today? I don't I would rather wait for a recovery now.if this was 11 or 12 maybe, but not today. Teck is having their own problems do you think they will make a decision today or anytime in the next 6 months I don't. If they did sell now it would be far below true value in my opinion.