Sorry Hoghead, I just used the quote as an example, the message I was trying to convey is that any share consolidation will have the same result, again, I don't believe cuu is even contemplating this, this market is in very poor shape, the worst I've seen it in the 25 plus years of playing the pennies, Market Sentiment is much much larger than Teck will ever be, make no mistake Teck is looking for Market Sentiment to change direction as well. Good luck to us bewildered longs.