The "Plan" by EE and Elmer was always to get Teck to do as much work on SC to get the best value by means of the work Teck is doing. Elmer knows the value of SC he put in Tecks court to officially prove it and document it on their dime that's  why Elmer never pushed Teck he knows in due time the numbers will justify and production decision or buyout. In previous years the Laird JV meetings where held in the fall I wonder why they changed it this time to be held in January along with the finally of the Desktop studies,the meeting in January should be intersting to say the least.