Exactly retail is the last to know look at Newmont buy of Goldcorp I own it and no one saw that one coming.Credential picked up a nice chunk at the ask yesterday plus there has been some gradually buying over the last while. We are not going to get anything out of Teck never have just look at their past very tight lipped and with CF the same. Like some have mentioned we will get one morning hopefully soon and either SC or the whole of CF will be gone.