TBH, I dont know whats worse... Us without a JV at possibly 0.01 cents with some sorta control of our destiny, or Us with a JV at 0.07 cents with absolutly no control of anything.  

The only thing that keeps me going is the millions EE has pumped into this...I have to belive a man that has so much cash didnt just find it one day in the back of his sock drawer, and has/had good feelings about this and would like his payday soon.

Buuuuuut when soemthing like this rolls around, I resign to the fact, that possibly he got duped just as the rest of us have...Which of course is no ones fault but our own.

https://business.financialpost.com/commodities/energy/one-of-canadas-richest-people-went-all-in-on-pengrowth-it-may-have-cost-him-big-time

I wonder how much money could have been made if perhaps Shaft was a mine right now, and 2020 had a year of 1500/oz gold and 2.75 copper on average...  Would that have been a better bet than fort hills?