Hence the absolute need for clarity from Elmer. As far as the 2013 Feasibility study goes here is what Copper Fox said about it in the last MD&A " The Feasibility Study was completed in early 2013 and should be treated as historical in nature. The recommendation and conclusions outlined in the Feasibility Study should not be relied upon." Plus they scrubbed all references to reserves on the website and financial statements. Schaft Creek may be at PEA stage as far as Teck is concerned. So Elmer really needs to counter all this uncertainty with some good news or you can imagine what will happen to the share price.