MK, your posts are very informative and you always back them up with facts and/or reasonable assumptions and calculations. On top of all that, you are standing behind your posts with all the shares you accumulated; my only question to you is why trying to convince the experts on the sidelines with no shares? Let them chase all the other huge opportunities they have and think of the choice words Elmer has for them; that should put a big grin on your face :)