I think you are right MK. Something has to go and soon or there is no money to develop anything or do significant work on any project without a major cash infusion/huge share dilution. Management doesnt seem to want to let regular shareholders know what the plan really is and my confidance in Elmer is at an all time low and as you know, it wasn't very high before. I just want to hear a real plan or see some real results and not be subject to releases that say basically nothing and wouldn't fool a 10 year old. After all these years it's getting to be a bit much....