Do you suppose we could arrange a meeting with management?  I live in Southern California but I would be happy to fly to Toronto for the day for a meeting.  I tend to be fairly generous toward management and would not underestimate the folks in VZ.  We probably are overthinking this and more patience is what is needed.  However, I would like to look KRY management in the eye, ask some questions and hear answers in person.  There is a lot of money at stake here.  Good idea?  Any others interested?