bull frog back from 2 weeks vacation in or at huatulco, mexico way south of puerto vallarta a underdevolped area yet. very hot ,very nice. talked to a gold miner, explorer from mexico on vacation at the same resort as we were staying at,talked about the las christina in venezuela , the miner knew well what i was talking about in spite of the language problem. said no one really knows how hugh chavez really thinks, os i tried to pump but the chap didn't really know much. o well it's good to be back.read the top message by HOOV re conference thanks for that post. gone to timmy now for the first coffee in 2 weeks, that is a real cup of the stuff. bull frog