when you asked the girl out you didn't put out any money for her to put out and eventually you knew the answer was no based on her lack of a response. KRY is a different story. you put out money and got shares of the company in return with the expectation that the price you paid would be higher in time and then you could sell at a profit. you got what you paid for but you expectations were not met because the wild card Ven hasn't produced yet. don't see how your analogy is apples to apples.