I wonder whether in this case, things might be different. It might be that KRY is pretty well done as far as its involvement with drafting the JV agreement. They might now be waiting for the PRC's president to meet with Chavez and sign some general commercial treaty in the next 3 weeks before CRRC will sign off on the JV agreement - making sure that our bud in Caracas can't back out. If that's the case, the insiders won't know too much more than the retailers before an announcement. Remember, an announcement might come from China first.