Some well-intended posters really stuck their necks out for the rest of us with nothing to gain. They were labelled pumpers and liars by many, not only on this forum but many others. Beandog's post verifies most of what they have posted. Most of us know who they are, but IMO they sure deserve a pat on the back for their compassion towards the rest of us. Every one of us, long-term shareholders, wished we had sold long before now. Whether we profit or lose everything, their hearts were in the right place. Thanks guys - Teut, Hoov, No_Bear, Turtlefoam, retflash, etc. etc.