Hi Chipshot - agree with everything you are saying. I am in deeper than I would like but I am going to hold on and continue the ride. I have only one other investment but it is performing well right now, offsetting much of my recent CYP losses. Exall lives on still! Those who were around in the EXL days will recall that when GEA was formed there was also EE spun off. I have added to my original EE holding and the SP has popped nicely. Still profiting from Stephen Roman.....