Loneeagle, as a former trader

I'm somewhat surprized at your comment, "But the way they ( the traders )manipulate the stock is appalling .even when I was an OTC trader I was never that deliberate, you just need limit orders , a market order gets slaughtered."

No one gets prosecuted anymore, markets are just too big to be fully monitored (if they even care) and trading on insider news is too easy to do. Naked shorting used to be illegal, now it's rampant. Even now, watch them hammer the silver market down when it starts to get away on them. Driving it down $1.00 in 1 hr or less takes motive. HFT is another added distortion.

PP's with 1/2 sh warrant per common sh PLUS fees is a joke.

I'm still waiting for our Christmas run.