Thanks Deal. Like I said all along, I was and am a realist. May sound pessimistic but the trhth hurts. Speaking of truths, strange good old Pipedreimer couldn't muster up enough words to post on this forum. Guess Bruner hasn't paid him this week with all that went down. When that happens, then he'll revert back to his gung ho, rah rah chants about keeping the dream alive. Eddie