As I look at all this, G and S getting hammered prior to options expiry/G20/whatever reason they want, potential COMEX defaults, blatant market manipulation of all levels of all markets, from soveriegn debt to the smallest venture deal, the BS that the pundits put out; I'm getting more and more to agree with Jim Sinclairs MOPE (Management Of Perspective Economics) thoughts. Everything that's being done is to quiet the herd, to keep the cattle from kicking down the fences and stampeding, but less and less from a profit motive, more now just to keep the herd quieted down. How can the COMEX continue to play these games? Or the TSX sheisters? Paper still rules. Anyone else feel this is the deal? It's ending as we watch though. The cattle are getting restless, like before a thunder and lightning storm. It's like watching grass grow, watching history unfold on a day by day perspective. I remember when I started reading this forum a couple of years ago, the talk of manipulation was pretty scarce. Now it's the main theme.