If any of U people understood an iota of simple arithmetic, U'd realize that all the ranting in the world about Dems and Reps and good or bad government CAN't save the western world.

(collective) We are living WAY above the average SUSTAINABLE standard of living. We use WAY more oil than anyone else in the world and that produces EVERYTHING from food, heat, transportation to electiricity for my internet connection.

GROWTH from here on in is mathematically IMPOSSIBLE! (and there are already 6 billion more people than the world can sustain without oil!)

We are on the downside of Hubbert's peak (oil) and falling fast.

When are U guys going to realize that all the Socialism, Facism, Democracy, Monarchy, or Anarchy in the world will not change the laws of mathematics!

Our leaders know this and have known since the beginnings of the "Club of Rome" in the 1970's when I first read about it.

Please, I beg U! Stop your useless idiotic political YAMMERING about different flavours of dream worlds that can NEVER exist (again).

Love and support those U can help, and watch with understanding as the rest of it goes bye bye...sorry but it's just data, and arithmetic...nothing personal.

lotus petals,

gildage