It's pretty bad, alright. And there will be (and has been) forced selling in mainly the PM's themselves, as the result of this meltdown.

Hard to handle, but handle it we must. Remember Goldman Sachs, I think it was, prediction of $2,400 gold by year end - was that merely some really attractive bait?

Also, remember, just about everyone here believes in heavy manipulation of this market and has chosen to play in the game nonetheless, so....