I for one have been busy getting a heart valve replaced last week and have just read a lot of posts. First of all there isn't total silence, and I for one appreciate all the posts that gwr1 and everyone else puts up, but really what's left to say? We all know by now the markets are seriously rigged, totally phoney. Shorts? don't make me laugh. These a-holes have so many ways to hide their shorts that we aren't even in the ball game knowing the truth. Fundamentals, doesn't matter. My only hope is something will disturb this robbery in plain sight before paper covers rock. Things will crack eventually, but how much more manipulation before all semblence of price discovery and true and honest markets?