'Coy'? Excuse me GWR but myself and many others here have been talking about naked shorting for years. There is so much written/evidence on it by experts over so many years and so many discussions on it (by experts) now that it has become almost irrelevant redundant and a waste of time. Why would you ask me to elaborate on it? As you know GATA.org alone has tomes written on it. Most are sick of it.

My belief that ECU/AUM has been managed both externally and internally going way back years with ECU is certainly no secret...so I am hardly being 'coy'. The whole venture exchange has been trounced. Do you not think that people such as Eric Sprott, John Embry, Ted Butler, Bill Murphy, and a small army of others have not seen this for themselves for a very long time? Of course you do. You are an experienced, educated, professional steeped in the markets, right?You know all this so I am merely wondering why you would even ask. I spoke to one of the above a year ago and he was very guarded in naming names and banks...and others. Can't blame him. We all know how powerful the forces behind the cartel are. However, it is no secret what they think. I will be seeing him next week and know for sure that even he has been surprised at the length and depravity and the enduring tenacity of the perpetrators.

I have had several inboxes quiring 'who' I suspect posting here may be in league (rewarded by) with the manipulators and have responded that I do not want to name names because I do not have written evidence...but to me reasoning by deduction has it's merits. There are other longs who have the same sympathies as me and many who no longer post. I have also mentioned in past posts many times that it is common with many of the most valueable (in ground ounces) JPMs to have similar 'red flags'. Others much more knowledgeable than me have expressed so here over the years.

Most here know all this of course so there is no point in rehashing the obvious. The irrational nature of the pricing of both the PM/JPM stocks has driven many from the markets...and this has been the ultimate, orchestrated goal. The fraud has enriched many. The details you well know.

If one can naked short with impunity and encourage buying with no shame...and influence the stock price at whim...one can make millions. Many are and have. to pretend that it is not so is adding insult to monetary injury.

Don't tell me I'm being 'coy'. I'm just bloody angry.