I know it's more constructive for everyone on this board to try and remain positive, but I've had about all I can take from this company. They continue to overpromise and underperform. Lack of miners?? You've got to be kidding me. I could be wrong, but it seems like twhenever there's an update from Mr. Clevenger, or any other officer, everything gets painted as rosy, and then the bad news is disseminated later. I won't sell my shares here, but I certainly won't buy anymore and hope that they can turn this into a profitable venture. I've been with this position since the ECU days (as I know quite a few of us have been). My patience with management is done!