Agreed, I have met Fred on many occasions and he strikes me as a very honest, decent, no-nonsense fellow. I believe that he is very focused on building long-term shareholder value but I can assure you that he has absolutely zero interest in how the stock or the markets are trading on any particular day. I think that is the mindset we want if we are partners in the business, for a trader it may be a different story but they are not the core investors.