Well trace I agree with you as we where sold down the river twice now no. 1 FWR BOD and MACK and now by SPQ's BOD' and nn. I knew nn would sell us as I talked to him at the beggining of the FWR masicre, he agreed it was a good deal for shareholders on the first CLIFFS offer SO I knew then that he would sell us down the river just as his BUDDY M . We had no chance with himm from the get go.WE now have to be careful not to buy shares of Co's with any of these people on BOD's. I now ask myself what about KWG what are the mysteries behind it? I do have a little bit more hope? Take care all as there are many many ??????????? about investing in JR'S. Turcotte