This is where an extended Mastermind like this forum really has POWER! It brings thing to the consciousness that otherwise might be forgotten, significant things. YES, CD, The police are out! Now that you have said this, I can see it as a significant thing that it is. My wife got her first ticket in 35 years of driving the other day, for going 35 in a 30! And the radar guns are everywhere. I've seen more cops out there too. It wasn't until your note here that it occurred to me too. This is the POWER of this board, it is what Napoleon Hill termed the Mastermind Principle and THIS is how it works. Exactly how this works. IT's not about numbers. It's about ideas, about throwing observations out there and letting others in the group feast on them and come up with conclusions. Bravo! Bull