Joe, You are right; the marketing sucks. That doesn't mean the message sucks, just the delivery of the message. In Apple's darkest days, Apple users went to computer stores and voluntered their time to help customers learn about Apple Computers. Apple couldn't afford to pay anyone to do this. I know Kimber is the real deal. I know the gold price is heading much higher. I know Mexico is the place to be mining for the next twenty or thirty years, and I know Kimber is not going to go out of business, but I also know that Gordon Cummings and company are pretty stretched financially right now. I am about to take a bold, personal step to start doing some marketing on my own for this company. Anyone out there who wants to join me can. You will see what I'm talking about within the next week or so. When you see it, I want you all to write to me and let me know what you think of it and what else you want to see. I have a close associate who is going to translate it into Mandarin Chinese for broadcast overseas. I think you are all going to like what you see. And this is only the beginning. Bull