I don't know how much we are owed from shipped concentrate. Concentrate shipped to JJNICL pays off our loan and does not return cash. As to how much concentrate is owing from XStrata, we'll have to wait and see.

We'll know more once we see the September 2008 financial statements. These are supposed to be released within 45 days of the quarter's close, so by November 15th we'll have a good idea of what is going on.