Wanerer5, from your writings, you cover a lot of different topics, and can see them through. Liberty's set back , was the cause of World financial greed and now we all pay. Nickel mining will definately change in Northern Ontario,.as we see China buying up the nickel mines in Austraila, and Brazil buying every where else. The LME showing 100,000 tons and an other 100,000 in the pipe along with the ore in process. Thinking out loud, this nickel supply will be around for a long time. I can see Vale INCO cutting deep , i can see Xstrata cutting deep, going forward as this World down turn advances, i see Vale buying out Xstrata as their nickel reserves are limited. Vale then shuts down the big expensive CC smelter and keeps Xstratas smelter and mines their ore from Vales mines. Xstrata with this big Smelter in Rouyn-Noranda, can handle all their copper requirments. I see things looking bleak for Sudbury..just one mans opinion. Traps7