Mann_up,

My suggestion would be to move to either Canada or Germany if you think their system is superior. Our county was built on personal responsibility and choice. There is no way in hell I want the government involved in any of my personal decisions.

I also don't feel I should be punished for being healthy by being saddled by somebody else's poor choices. Unless you can make a clear argument for a program the government is involved with that can be held up as a clear success, don't suggest I get herded into a government healthcare. Government is wasteful, inefficient, bloated, corrupt....

Ignorance is relinquishing your God given rights to the whims of government.