I totally agree with you about both of them. In fact, I've talked to Mr. Perry several times over the past couple years and he finally refered me to others in his company since I wasn't satisfied with his answers. Anyways, I'm giving it a full year from now which should put them a full quarter or more into their estimated production rate of 60,000/yr (and that's not taking into account the results from the bulk sample or ongoing drill results which should hopefully make for a very favorable feasibility report). One good thing about the share price going sideways as time passes, about 37 mil in warrants w/ exercise prices of .40-1.00 are set to expire in the next 9 months.