Hi Mudlark, MSV will be a mine, they need 60 MM $ to start it up. They think about borrowing it from a Chinese bank, since they are not willing to dillute the shares whne the SP is under a buck. They will wait for better times to do that. Might see a split. Half borrowed and half from somewhere else. MMM will come with drill results but they don't think it is of ud=se in this market now. But it will come...