BigCat, backdoor, I guess you guys do not understand the difference between making a bad investment in an honest company and being screwed out of your money. Well, there is a huge difference. In the first case, I just accept it and move on. In the second case, I want someone to pay and I want revenge. If you two don't know by now what Brent and Jeff did to us, then you will be getting screwed many times in your life. No one put a gun to the heads of the Bernnie Madoff investors either, so I have no idea why you would ridicule me like that. Not being forced into being screwed does not make it ok or mean I should not talk about it.