I seem to be on ignore mode, but we do agree we both want the stock at $20 a share and yes it's a whole lot better than .07. Your right, there are probably a lot of people that don't know how to value stock invested here and yes I am one of them. But I did manage to buy 220K shares and have held them without selling for quite some time. This forum has been a great place for information and many members are courteous and helpful. You have to admit it is a little confusing trying to value this stock even for those that know how. Guess I'll go work on something I do know how to do. All the best, Steve