well they have made a lot of money over the years by financing ptsc, they were also paid dividends, they have 2 people on the BOD.  how to remove them?....i think a deal needs to be struck that will allow all the warrants to be retired.  i actually thought this deal had been done but apparently we still have outstanding warrants.  if s&l sees the same value in the patents that some of us believe then they would stand to make more money by letting ptsc grow.  but, i honestly dont know.  i am an outside investor looking in.  something is killing the stock price and it is not the patents or lack of revenue.  what say u?

t'moto