I spoke with someone from Hawk about 2 months ago. The person that I spoke with stated that they talked with DP on a daily basis--perhaps they could get the "real OS" numbers--we certainly have a right to know. If someone else would like to call or has called already, let me know as I don't think it wise for too many of us to be calling. Perhaps Ron's contacts has the current figures--Ron, could you ask them for us? GL, ads