My question is, are not treble damages generally reserved for the ruling judge to make at his discretion after a verdict and award, and two, they are rarely used, correct, although rarely is not to be construed as never?

What do you say, Ron?  I don't think how much is as important as just a clear decision in favor of PTSC's ownership of the patent's but I am not sure that we should come to expect that if we win, that the damages would be tripled.