Yes, a "great glower" decribes it well. Sorry I didn't get to meet up with you and the Agoracomites, my buddy and also PTSC investor was late picking me up on the way, and we got there just in time to hear Pohl start the meeting. I did get to meet Marc who is just an awesome person, but I knew this by his posts over the past two years. I live just north of you in Monarch Beach, so am always able to attend the meetings, so maybe next time I will be on time. GLTAL